Tongo Eisen-Martin is a revolutionary poet influenced by poets such as Gil Scott-Heron, Allen Ginsberg, and Audre Lorde. In Heaven is All Goodbyes, politics, surrealism, and spiritualism converge with gangsterism, revolution, and perseverance in poems addressing state violence, police brutality, the prison industrial-complex, as experienced by African Americans throughout history. In conversation with author and journalist Kathie Klarreich.